Изпълнение на Pokerstars. Очевидно плащането не е доброволно (страница 18)

Have your enforcements been refused by a court in Malta?

please describe in more detail.

Wurden deine Vollstreckungen von einem Gericht auf Malta abgelehnt?

bitte etwas genauer beschreiben.

In Austria, the gambling monopoly will probably remain for a long time and therefore there is no pressure on the casinos from here. Of course there are a few (also well-known providers) who pay, but the usual suspects can play forever and ultimately not pay. For an execution, there has to be something that can be executed, and the cash flows are so quick and opaque that there is simply nothing to be gained.

I don't want to belittle anyone's hope, but you also have to face the facts. Even the sum of all claims is probably not even the monthly turnover for the online casinos, but they simply don't want to pay and get away with it.

If the execution order is positive, the executor goes on site, takes furniture and other valuables (e.g. PCs) and auctions them off...you can wait forever until even one order is covered.

Unfortunately, as long as the Austrian government does not exert any pressure to bring about a solution, things look sad. And she's in a quandary...compare the intended official liability proceedings against the Republic.

In Österreich wird das Glücksspielmonopol wohl auf längere Zeit bleiben und somit liegt von hier kein Druck auf auf die Casinos vor. Natürlich gibt es ein paar (auch namhafte Anbieter) die zahlen, aber die üblichen Verdächtigen können sich ewig spielen und letztendlich nicht zahlen. Für eine Exekution muss nämlich auch etwas da sein, was exekutiert werden kann und die Zahlungsströme sind so schell und undurchsichtig, dass da einfach nichts zu holen ist.

Ich möchte niemandem die Hoffnung rauben, aber man muss auch den Tatsachen ins Auge sehen. Selbst die Summe aller Forderungen ist für die Online Casinos vermutlich nicht einmal der Monatsumsatz, aber sie wollen einfach nicht zahlen und kommen damit durch.

Bei einem positiven Exekutionsbescheid, geht der Exekutor vor Ort, nimmt Mobiliar und andere Wertgegenstände (z.b. PCs) umd versteigert diese...da kann man ewig warten, bis auch nur ein Bescheid abgedeckt ist.

Solange seitens der österreichischen Regierung kein Druck ausgeübt wird um eine Lösung herbeizuführen, schaut es leider traurig aus. Und die ist da in der Zwickmühle...vergleiche dazu das angestrebte Amtshaftungsverfahren gegen die Republik.

who finances new requests?

wer finanziert noch neue Anfragen?

Hi I finally have to go to court LCS (wallacebet) refused to refund (btw they also have curaçao casinos..)

Do I have a form to complete for court ?

Thank you

Has anyone ever gotten anything back from Rabbit Entertainment?

Hat jemand schonmal was von Rabbit Entertainment zurück bekommen?

Was a silent reader until now but wanted to ask if anyone had any experience with Platincasino

War bis jetzt ein stiller Leser wollte aber fragen ob jemand Erfahrungen mit Platincasino gemacht hat

The law is what it is and if players have the ability to recoup their losses, many do. It doesn't matter how you evaluate it morally, that's just the reality and it's in the nature of things.

I don't deny the fact that when players have the option of reclaiming the money back, then they can do so. I just wouldn't support it actively, recommending it to every single Austrian player in cases where the casino treated them fairly (and treated them as any other player who had the same chance for winnings).

The responsible gambling aspect you mentioned here brings a new light into the discussion. It's definitely better for Austrian players sticking to Austria licensed casinos if they bring the option of blocking yourself from all casinos (licensed in Austria) since this is the kind of protection you want to use when you feel like the gambling is getting out of your control.

On the other hand, I'm afraid that you'll reach exactly the same point they have in the Great Britain. You can block yourself from all UK licensed casinos through GAMSTOP. The result is that players who get blocked for a few years on GAMSTOP start looking for other casinos. MGA licensed casinos won't accept them (contrary to the situation in Austria) so they're forced to play in Curacao licensed or unlicensed casinos and they do play there.

The result is that they block themselves in casinos that are the best and safest for them on GAMSTOP. Then MGA casinos that are generally decent won't accept them, then the players are even more vulnerable since they can start playing in casinos that don't really care about any law. Some of those casinos can be great. Even we have for example Curacao licensed casinos with ratings 9+, but you surely know that playing in those or unlicensed casinos can be problematic. Their services provided differ a lot. Eventually, the biggest gamblers blocked in Austria will start playing in shady unlicensed casinos that won't care about responsible gambling at all and suing them won't have any effect.

Yes, exactly

Ja genau