Добър вечер, вчера направих депозит от €20 с бонуса RELOAD50 на казиното, който кредитира 50% от депозита (т.е. +€10, общо €30) и 75 безплатни завъртания на Zeus vs Hades.
Безплатните завъртания ми дадоха 5,98 евро.
Така че общо трябваше да заложа €119.60 за безплатните завъртания и €300 за 50% бонуса (т.е. +10€).
Общ залог от €419.60.
След МНОГО часове почти до зазоряване, успях да достигна над €510 (€515 и малко ресто) и от от 510 € поисках теглене, оставих €5 вътре.
След много часове, на следващия ден по обяд, те отмениха тегленето и по същество ме НУЛИРАХА, оставяйки ме с 30 евро в баланса си, тоест 20-те евро от депозита ми и заключен бонус от 10 евро, сякаш никога не бях играл.
Когато попитах в чата на живо какво точно се е случило, те цитираха термина „превишаване на залога".
Цяла нощ играх предимно със залози от 10€ и 20€, с изключение на 2 покупки, които направих от по 20€, за които предполагам, че се отнасят.
Говорим САМО за 2 закупени бонуса, за които дори не се сетих, защото нарушаваха някакво условие, единият на Madame Destiny Megaways и единият на 5 Lions Megaways 2, докато играех с ЧАСОВЕ с 10-минутен и 20-минутен залог.
Тъй като бях се сблъсквал с подобни съмнителни тактики само в съмнителни чуждестранни казина, които дори нямат легален лиценз, което бях опитвал и в миналото, разбрах, че те просто не искаха да ми изплатят спечелената от мен сума.
Днес си помислих, че отново играх в казиното, като направих 1-2 закупени бонуса тогава, но общата сума за теглене беше много по-малка и по това време те не бяха повдигнали никакви възражения, нито пък ми бяха посочили, че съм нарушил някакви условия, или дори ме предупредиха за бъдеща игра. Този път те нормално кредитираха сумата по картата ми.
За щастие си спомних това и го проверих, иначе щях да си помисля „добре, може би наистина е моя вината".
И така, какво се случи сега, след като се случи АБСОЛЮТНО същото?
Наистина ли 510-те евро, които СПЕЧЕЛИХ и събрах след толкова часове игра, са толкова много щети за компанията?
Подобни практики и липсата на доверие само вредят на имиджа им.
Свързах се с казиното и по имейл и те ми казаха, че причината отново е, че съм превишил лимита за залагане! Освен това, че това е първото им предупреждение.
След като предупреждението си е предупреждение, както се казва, и това е ПЪРВИЯТ път, когато ми го дават, не би ли трябвало да ми върнат парите?
Сигурен съм, че ако говорехме за много по-малка сума, те нямаше да преминат през целия този процес.
Отговорите, които получавах всеки път, бяха в един и същ крайно непрофесионален, обиден модел срещу играчите.
Играя във всички гръцки онлайн казина и 9 от 10 вече защитават играчите, например, те дори не позволяват на някого да кликне върху закупен бонус, когато има активна оферта, или дори когато играчът кликне върху него, се появява съобщение, че това не е възможно. Сигурен съм, че и вие знаете това.
Сега знам много добре как работят ЛЕГАЛНИТЕ онлайн казина и тази тъжна тактика, следвана от N1casino, е известна от години на запознатите. Просто не го очаквах от уж ЛЕГАЛНО казино. Мислех, че е легитимно, докато аз и няколко мои приятели, които играят.
След като искат да загубят толкова много пари от мен и моите приятели (10+ души) за 510 евро, няма значение. Защото никой няма да играе там отново, ако продължат с тези практики.
Казах им да поправят грешката си ръчно и да ми върнат сумата, която са ми конфискували, а те ми казаха, че дори нямат тази възможност и че всичко е автоматизирано, още една огромна СМЕШНА лъжа, за тези, които са запознати.
Запазил съм и скрийншотове, ако е необходимо.
Надявам се на разрешаване на проблема и натиск от ваша страна, тъй като казиното ОТКАЗВА отново и отново.
Благодаря ти.
Good evening, yesterday I made a €20 deposit with the casino's RELOAD50 bonus, which credits 50% of the deposit (i.e. +€10, total €30) and 75 free spins on Zeus vs Hades.
The free spins gave me €5.98.
So in total I had to wager €119.60 for the free spins and €300 for the 50% bonus (i.e. the +10€).
Total wager at €419.60.
After MANY hours until almost dawn, I managed to reach over €510 (€515 and some change) and of which €510 I requested a withdrawal, I left the €5 inside.
After many hours, the next day at noon they canceled the withdrawal and essentially ZEROED me, leaving me with €30 in my balance, that is, the €20 of my deposit and a €10 locked bonus, as if I had never played.
When I asked in live chat what exactly happened, they cited the term "bet overrun".
All night I played mainly with 10€ and 20€ bets except for 2 buys I made of 20€, which I assume they refer to.
We're talking about ONLY 2 purchased bonuses, which I didn't even think about because they violated some condition, one on Madame Destiny Megaways and one on 5 Lions Megaways 2, while I was playing for HOURS with a 10-minute and 20-minute bet.
Because I had only encountered such shady tactics at dubious foreign casinos that don't even have legal licensing, which I had tried in the past, I understood that they simply didn't want to pay out the amount I won.
Today I thought that I had played at the casino again, making 1-2 purchased bonuses back then, but the total withdrawal amount was much smaller and at that time they had not raised any objection, nor did they point out to me that I had violated any terms or even warn me about future playing. They credited the amount to my card normally that time.
Luckily I remembered this and checked it out, otherwise I would have thought okay, maybe it really was my fault.
So now what happened since EXACTLY the same thing happened?
Is the €510 that I MADE and collected after so many hours of playing really that much damage to the company?
Such practices and their lack of credibility only harm their image.
I also contacted the casino by email and they told me that the reason again is that I exceeded the betting limit! Also, that this is their first warning notice.
Since the warning is a warning, as they say, and it's the FIRST time they've given it to me, aren't they supposed to refund my money?
I'm sure that if we were talking about a much smaller amount, they wouldn't have gone through this whole process.
The responses I received each time were in the same highly unprofessional abusive pattern against the players.
I play at all the Greek online casinos and 9 out of 10 now protect the players, for example they don't even let someone click on a purchased bonus when there is an active offer or even when the player clicks on it, a message appears saying it is not possible. I'm sure you know this too.
I now know very well how LEGAL online casinos work and this sad tactic followed by N1casino has been known for years to those in the know, I just didn't expect it from a supposedly LEGAL casino, I thought it was legit for as long as I and several of my friends who play.
Since they want to lose so much money from me and my friends (10+ people) for 510€, it doesn't matter. Because no one is going to play there again if they continue these practices.
I told them to correct their mistake manually and credit me back the amount they confiscated from me and they told me that they don't even have this capability and that everything is automated, another huge LAUGHTERING lie, for those in the know.
I've also kept screenshots if needed.
I hope for a resolution of the issue and pressure from you, since the casino REFUSES again and again.
Thank you.
Καλησπέρα, χθες έκανα 20€ κατάθεση με το RELOAD50 bonus του καζίνο το οποίο πιστώνει 50% της κατάθεσης (δηλαδή +10€, σύνολο 30€) και 75 free spins στο Zeus vs Hades.
Τα free spins μου έδωσαν 5,98€.
Σύνολο λοιπόν έπρεπε να τζιράρω 119,60€ για τα free spins και 300€ για το 50% bonus (τα +10€ δηλαδή).
Σύνολο του wager στα 419,60€.
Μετά από ΠΟΛΛΕΣ ώρες μέχρι τα ξημερώματα σχεδόν, κατάφερα και έφτασα πάνω από 510€ (515€ και κάτι ψιλά) και για τα οποία 510€ ζήτησα ανάληψη, τα 5€ τα άφησα μέσα.
Μετά από πάρα πολλές ώρες, την επόμενη μέρα το μεσημέρι ακυρώσαν την ανάληψη και στην ουσία με ΜΗΔΕΝΙΣΑΝΕ, μου αφήσανε στο υπόλοιπο μου 30€, δηλαδή τα 20€ της κατάθεσης μου και 10€ κλειδωμένο bonus, σαν να μην έπαιξα ποτέ δηλαδή.
Όταν ρώτησα στο live chat τι ακριβώς συνέβη, επικαλέστηκαν τον όρο πως έγινε υπέρβαση πονταρίσματος.
Όλη την νύχτα έπαιζα κυρίως με 10λετπο και 20λεπτο bet εκτός από 2 αγοραστά που έκανα των 20€, στα οποία υποθέτω ότι αναφέρονται.
Μιλάμε για ΜΟΝΟ 2 αγοραστά bonus, που δεν το σκέφτηκα καν οτί παραβαίνει κάποιον όρο, ένα στο Madame Destiny Megaways και ένα στο 5 Lions Megaways 2, ενώ έπαιζα με ΤΙΣ ΩΡΕΣ με 10λεπτο και 20λεπτο bet.
Επειδή τέτοιες σκιώδεις τακτικές είχα αντιμετωπίσει μόνο σε αμφιλεγόμενα ξένα καζίνο που δεν έχουν καν νόμιμη αδειοδότηση, που είχα δοκιμάσει στο παρελθόν, κατάλαβα πως απλώς δεν θέλουν να πληρώσουν το ποσό που κέρδισα.
Σήμερα σκέφτηκα πως είχα ξαναπαίξει στο καζίνο κάνοντας πάλι κάποια 1-2 αγοραστά bonus τότε, αλλά το συνολικό ποσό της ανάληψης ήταν αρκετά μικρότερο και τότε δεν είχαν φέρει καμία αντίρρηση, ούτε και μου έκαναν καμία επισήμανση ότι παραβίασα κάποιον όρο ή έστω να με προειδοποίησουν για μελλοντικό παίξιμο. Το πιστώσανε κανονικά το ποσό στην κάρτα μου εκείνη την φορά.
Ευτυχώς που το θυμήθηκα αυτό και το τσέκαρα κιόλας, αλλιώς θα σκεφτόμουν εντάξει, ίσως ήταν όντως δικό μου φταίξιμο.
Οπότε τώρα τι συνέβη εφόσον έγινε ΑΚΡΙΒΩΣ το ίδιο;
Τόσο πολύ ζημιά είναι για την εταιρία τα 510€ που ΚΑΤΑΦΕΡΑ και μάζεψα μετά από τόσες ώρες παιχνιδιού;
Μόνο κακό στην εικόνα τους κάνουν τέτοιες είδους πρακτικές και μηδαμινή αξιοπιστία.
Επικοινώνησα και με email με το casino και μου είπαν πως ο λόγος πάλι είναι ότι ξεπέρασα το όριο πονταρίσματος! Όπως επίσης πως είναι η πρώτη τους επισήμανση προειδοποιητικού χαρακτήρα.
Εφόσον η επισήμανση έχει προειδοποιητικό χαρακτήρα όπως λένε, και είναι η ΠΡΩΤΗ φορά που μου την έκαναν, δεν υποτίθεται πως θα πρέπει να μου επιστρέψουν το ποσό;
Είμαι σίγουρος πως αν μιλούσαμε για ένα αρκετά μικρότερο πόσο δεν θα είχαν μπει σε όλη αυτήν την διαδικασία.
Οι απαντήσεις που ΄λάμβανα κάθε φορά ήταν στο ίδιο άκρως αντιεπαγγελματικό καταχρηστικό μοτίβο εναντίων των παικτών.
Παίζω σε όλα τα Ελληνικά online καζίνο και τα 9 στα 10 πλέον προστατεύουν τους παίκτες, πχ δεν αφήνουν καν να πατήσει κάποιος αγοραστό bonus όταν έχει ενεργή προσφορά ή ακόμα και όταν το πατήσει ο παίκτης βγάζει μήνυμα πως δεν είναι δυνατό. Είμαι σίγουρος πως το γνωρίζετε και εσεις.
Ξέρω πλέον πολύ καλά πως δουλεύουν τα ΝΟΜΙΜΑ online casino και αυτή η θλιβερή τακτική που ακολουθεί η N1casino είναι γνωστή εδώ και χρόνια σε όσους γνωρίζουν, απλώς δεν το περίμενα από ένα ΝΟΜΙΜΟ υποτίθεται καζίνο, νόμιζα πως είναι legit τ΄΄οσο καιρό και εγώ και αρκετοί φίλοι μου που παίζουν.
Αφού θέλουν να χάσουν τόσα χρήματα από εμένα και τους φίλους μου (10+ άτομα) για 510€ δεν πειράζει. Γιατί κανείς δεν πρόκεται να ξαναπαίξει εκεί αν συνεχίσουν αυτές τις πρακτικές.
Τους είπα να διορθώσουν το λάθος τους χειροκίνητα και να μου πιστώσουν ξανά το ποσό που μου κατασχέσαν και μου είπαν πως δεν έχουν καν αυτήν την δυνατότητα και πως όλα είναι αυτοματοποιημένα, άλλο ένα τεράστιο ψέμα ΓΙΑ ΓΕΛΙΑ, για όσους ξέρουν.
Έχω κρατήσει και screenshots αν χρειαστεί.
Ελπίζω σε επίλυση του ζητήματος και πίεση εκ μέρους σας, αφου το καζίνο ΑΡΝΕΙΤΑΙ ξανά και ξανά.
Σας ευχαριστώ.
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